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INTERVIEW with Seth KOA
exclusive interview with the old school legend




SETH KOA

 
"Just like everyone over 30, I was exposed to writing through the early 80's 'hip hop as a total package' explosion. Unlike today, the graffiti, the music, the b-boying and popping was all inseparable.
I saw all the same stuff everyone else saw, Buffalo Gals, Rock Steady, all of that. I started breaking in year 6 in 1983 and just like everyone else had my little go at trying to be Ramo from Beat Street. Though I really loved all the stuff that was going on at the time, I was mainly into the breaking and didn't actually try to write properly until 86-87. At that time the breaking was getting old and you spent more time fighting long haired heavy metal cunts than battling. The serious b-boys had started switching to writing and I was definitely paying attention.

One of Canberra's pioneer hip hop crews, FBA, had done a lot of shit around my area. A kid I hated from my school had an older brother in the crew and one day in the principles office he started boasting to me about what a mad 'bombing' hero he was and all about his 'mentor' 'racking' paint and the 'piece' they had just done. That night I went and destroyed their piece on the side of the school and all the FBA tags in the area with my old breaking name; SETH. That's when I decided graffiti was fun. Turned out the idiot wasn't even in FBA and his 'career' ended about 5 minutes later. After that I learned a few things in 87 from two Maori boys in Kogarah, MACH and MACE but I didn't really go for it until 1988.

 


 

"There were three major crews writing up until that time. ROF (RENEGADES OF FUNK) came from Kambah in the south and was made up of some of Canberra's earliest hip hop kids, where RISK was a prominent breaker for many years. CBS (CHILDREN BATTLING SOCIETY) in the north, which were a younger crew also made up largely of breakers who had moved on, and another group of Greek kids in the Woden area, DDK (DA DEVIOUS KINGZ).

At various times and in various areas of the city between 87 and 88, each of the crews put in their work. I wasn't particularly impressed by much of it apart from DEVIL ROF, the characters of the bloke who was to go on to write BROKE, plus the amount of damage done by two writers in particular who were up all over the place and were the first to really go hardcore; POWER, who went on to be known as TIMER and SHUCKS, and a bum of a kid who changed his tag about 200 times but was then writing SHOMER and had started a crew called SWM.

I had previously ran into POWER at the tail end of the breaking era and SHOMER when he was still writing ROF. At this stage I was still largely unknown and doing my thing in the Tuggeranong/Weston Creek area (consisting of going over everybody), writing both SETH and BUST with my drinking partner SHERK.
Long story short, I ended up bombing with them and another kid QUOTE, who used to write CBS alongside PHOENIX, and the Hype twins.

In my short period in SWM I realised it wasn't what I was looking for (most of Canberra's graffiti was done in storm water drains), though I did learn that most writers were give ups and dogs. I ended up getting around with QUOTE and a writer from FCP; FRAUD, who went on to become BENT and KRAM. These two were both younger than me but both had better hand styles and letters, and were far more progressive than any other writers in town. KRAM had a style more on the level with what was going on in Melbourne at the time and together we formed VIP crew, dropping our other crews. The rest of Canberra was pretty monged with the styles and it wasn't until the Sydney invasion that we managed to catch up a little.
 

Over 88 and 89 writers from PIC, 501 Boys, later DMA, KOA such as; METRO, DMOTE, TAVEN, DUE, MCEE etc, came through Canberra on searching missions. During this period I did a few things with METRO, who was at that time writing 501 and DMA. Him and his brother MAYHEM formed the crew KOA (KISS OUR ARSE) in late 88. The crew was born out of the WEST RYDE BOYS and wasn't strictly a graffiti crew, more like a brotherhood, which it still is to this day. Original members included KERS and TAVEN.
 

 

"Fed up with the pissy scene in Canberra and wanting to do some 'real' graffiti, the kind that involved a rail system, me and QUOTE landed in West Ryde with a large amount of paint. METRO and his family took good care of me from day one, and it was from the time I started writing KOA crew that I really started to understand grafitti. Apart from characters, I erased everything I thought I knew and started from scratch. METRO was way ahead of the pack with his styles and I couldn't have asked for a better coach.

Can you explain what it was that METRO was doing to make him "ahead of the pack"?

Well by the time I started writing with him he had already done many years of hard work in Sydney. His brother and him were in some of Sydney's early influential crews such as ONE STEP BEYOND and LSD, and had been writing non-stop since they got here from N.Z. METRO was partnered with DMOTE for a long time and him, DMOTE, HARO and MAYHEM eventually became part of DMA crew Melbourne. Without trying to be biased I think its safe to say that these blokes were very advanced and innovative in Sydney and that's the reason they ended up connecting with DMA, who in my opinion are/were the all time best graffiti crew in Australia.

 

 

Between METRO, DMOTE and HARO you had three distinctive styles. DMOTE has always had the traditional New York graffiti effect, HARO has always had the freaky styles and METRO is somewhere in between with his own graphic twist. As far as being ahead of the pack, well after they went their separate ways, METRO'S influences changed. We drew on different shit for inspiration and originality has always been of the highest concern. The graffiti has always reflected the lifestyle, not the other way around.

He has painted some crazy shit over the years. There's fucking everything going on in his pieces, very complex but always with direction and funk. On top of that, he bombed hard and has always had fresh tags and throw ups. MAYHEM has always been a mad tagger too. In my opinion METRO is probably one of the most underrated writers in Australia. People don't even know that this man was put in the Zulu Nation by the godfather of writing PHASE 2 as far back as 1988. Now that's something!

 


Why is bombing and painting trains important?

Well I'm not even gonna sit here and talk about being some mad train bomber. I'm not. I think that painting trains is vital to the art because that's where it was born and that's where the spirit of the whole thing comes from. I have big respect for the people that put in the hard work and do the
trains.

As for bombing I love it too. The first thing I fell in love with about doing graffiti up in Sydney was travelling the loop and wasting trains with the boys. For me that's what it was all about. I mean I came from down here where we have no rail system and it's mainly about the walls. Our city is a car city and all the bombing and pieces are done along the main roads. That's our 'line' so to speak. People that live here and really wanted to go and paint the trains moved out and did their thing in Sydney and Melbourne.

Myself, I always tried to be realistic about it. As much as it tries to be, Canberra isn't Sydney and so even though I spent many years painting in Sydney or Overseas, I always had to come back and
live/work/teach/paint here, and its about walls down here?.. I play a totally different game in a totally different division. The way I see it, I was never going to do the things the masters did in New York in the 70's and 80's so I never even tried. I'm in it for a totally different reason. For me it's all about the KOA/WD/KOOLISM family, I don't give a fuck about the scene and its rules and customs, we always made our own rules and have never been accepted by the masses.

In a way it's a bit warped because I've got it too easy down here in my own world. I don't even need to do illegals at night, I just paint wherever I want in broad daylight. Too lazy to even run around in the dark and there's no point when I can get away with it right in front of the cops.
It's a totally different matter painting elsewhere. Which is the main reason I went to Sydney in the first place, you actually had to think and wait and run and escape and climb and fight and break and steal and lie and cheat and fight some more to do this art. I loved it!



What has graffiti taught you?

Taught me how to be a cunt! That's the truth mate. I mean I was always an artist before I ever picked up a can, so it didn't teach me that. I was a good kid until I started doing graffiti. Graffiti basically turned me into an animal and made me have no regard for anyone or anything except myself and my crew. It taught me to be cruel to people who probably didn't deserve it and to stomp all over anything in my path to get what I want. But I wouldn't give any of that back because it gave me the freedom to do whatever and go anywhere on the face of the earth without fear. It also gave me some true brothers for life and is an unlimited source of expression for me that no one can ever control. I have a love hate relationship with graffiti.

Do any artists outside of graffiti inspire you?

Oath! My inspiration comes almost entirely from outside of graffiti. If I was to be inspired only by graffiti I would have quit years ago. I find most graffiti really boring and repetitive, particularly my own stuff! Before I go on about the non-graffiti inspirations though, I must admit there are some writers that really impress me with their style: REAS ONE, SKEME, DOZE, DONDI, BIO, BRIM, NICER, T-KID, KNOW, CAVS and DOC.

DRAX KOA/WD/PFB. Big brother Drax, London graffiti don took me under his wing and showed me the ropes of the big bad world 13 years ago and enlisted me in the WORLD DOMINATION brotherhood.

 

 

I'm inspired by my departed brothers; NIPSTA- KOA/WD a dedicated bombing king who died in action, doing what he loved. ROOM ONE- KOA/WD/PFB (AKA: BRYAN/ERIC/SPLAT/SCREWS 2), was much loved and very active in the west for many years. SCOTT BAIN, though not an artist, a musical don and king of comedy who died tragically in 2000.

 

 

As far as visual 'artists', I like Chinese painting, traditional tattooing of Polynesia and Asia, and comic artists such as Steve Bisley, my bro Nang Ho, and most of all, old Warner Bros cartoons.

Music is what really inspires me, always has. I'm well into my music, more so than my graffiti. Of course it goes without saying that KOOLISM provides the soundtrack for the KOA crew. Their music is the voice of our family and we are all very much involved in each others work. KOA/KOOLISM, one and the same.

So what is KOOLISM about?

KOOLISM is a pioneering Australian hip hop movement. Their sound crosses a lot of barriers ranging from electro hip hop, Miami bass, reggae, jungle and breaks, soul and funk mixed with the rhythms of Polynesia. Above all and despite the various flavours, KOOLISM is hip hop in the
traditional sense of the word, the way the pioneers intended it; unrestricted funk and originality.

Is there any story as to how you guys hooked up?

Yeah, in about 1991 I ran up on Hau with a baseball bat thinking he was this Tongan I was having dramas with from Sydney. Big Hau handled himself with style and balls and he got my respect from that moment on. Canberra is a small town and I've had a lot of dealings with the Tongan community over the years, so I was hearing a lot about this up and coming rap star. Anyway, I am a negative cunt and had always vomited every time I heard Aussie hip hop, so I expected his stuff to be no exception. I had already seen DANIELSAN (then RAMPAGE) and wasn't real impressed, so when I found out them two had hooked up I was expecting a disaster.

I went to a show and finally saw HAU and his cousin SIONE performing alongside DANIELSAN and I was in shock at their talent. I mean I went there expecting to hear fake American accents and shit cutting, but came away eating my words. It was the first time I ever conceded that it could be done properly in this country. Hau's cousin SIONE was one of the greatest rappers to touch a mike in Australia, you can hear him on their first release as TRIBE LEDDA-L (these front door keys).

After that I was formally introduced to the boys through KRAM and I ended up being the first person to interview them in the print media and review their work. I knew from day one they were going straight to the top and they've never stopped working hard since. The first two KOOLISM releases were recorded in a bedroom at my house but I still haven't seen a cent. Over the last ten years we have become true brothers and gone through it all together; life, death, success and failure and the boys have made the KOA crew proud.

 



I read somewhere that the name Canberra (or Kanberra) is an Aboriginal word for a meeting place. Would you agree that Canberra is also a meeting place of two different graffiti styles, namely Sydney and Melbourne?

First up, maximum respect to the Koori nation! This meeting place concept borrowed/stolen from the brothers is the exact reason they chose this spot as the Capital and its effects are still felt in things such as the melting of northern and southern styles of graffiti.

In the beginning writers here had only what they saw in the earliest clips and in printed media to draw on. Their style was experimental and not really at all based on what was going on in the rest of the country. In 88, Sydney being only three hours away was definitely the place to look for in style.
PIC, MTV, RCF, TDF, TFP, IBS and other crews were being emulated by a few of the prominent writers. The old school writers here were influenced at that stage by the London graffiti scene more than anywhere else and used their paints for the same effect. Guys like KRAM were coming out with something of a Melbourne style while I was totally on my own with some strange thing that was neither Sydney nor Melbourne. By the time I did take any influences it was via Sydney writers who wrote with a Melbourne influenced style!

Then you had next generation writers like SHUTER-KOA, in my opinion the best writer to come out of Canberra, TRON, and SLIM/RUDES-KOA who came up on my work and were doing something just as unconventional but with influences from both north and south. To be honest TRON may have got his style from aliens or Jimi Hendrix, there is no comparison.

Then there are boys like RUBEN, AIRE, DEKS, DEFT, DROWSE and PHATS who were born totally into this new Canberra style and until much later knew nothing else. To balance this out there are blokes like RVETS (one of Canberra's all-time most active writers) and SLY crew who have bombed hard here for many years but have always maintained a strong NSW flavour. There has definitely always been a mixing of styles here, the freedom of the Melbourne styles with the traditions and simplicity of Sydney.

Things have definitely changed over the last few years since DISK injected his whole crew with the current Sydney style. This may have put an end to the development of a true 'Canberra style'. Due to the amount of exchange between these crews and the Sydney scene, Canberra can no longer claim total independence. Writers such as SKOS and DIEM have a very Sydney feel and a lot of influence on the local scene. Who knows where it's all going from here?

 


 

You made a mention about the scene and how it has its rules. Is breaking those rules innovative? Is this where we need to be heading?

Rules are necessary to keep societies and cultures intact but not all of them are worth following. For a start, graffiti writing, dancing and music are all a part of hip hop culture. Hip hop has its defining principles that set it apart as a culture. It was defined by our forefathers (people such as Bambaata, Kool Herc, Phase 2 and the Zulu Nation) and has always emphasized freedom of expression and individual creativity above all. It's never, ever, been about conforming to narrow stereotypes and following trends. Its biggest stars have always been the ones that go outside the norm and do their own thing; Ken Swift, Crazy Legs, Flash, Prince Paul, KRS ONE, Dondi and so on.

You don't need to break to Apache in ski-goggles, an adidas tracksuit and puma suedes to be a B-Boy. You can do the same shit in a Valentino suit to a Bounty Killer track. Same thing with graffiti. You can bomb your football team or your pet rodent's name or paint a character of a crippled mongoose making love to a toaster and still be hip hop.

I think as long as you try not to bite and don't use stencils, respect the hierarchy of tags to throw-ups to pieces and the consequences of going over people, the rest is entirely up to you. The rules that are made for breaking are the ones that are dictated by trends and fashion.

As far as where we should be headed, well that's not for me to decide but I'd like to see more innovation in the whole Australian hip hop scene.
 









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